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Just Great People
Transforming Organisations Through People: Professor Julie Hodges on Leading Real Change
In this episode of the Just Great People podcast, Barry Eustance speaks with Professor Julie Hodges, a leading authority on organisational change and author of People-Centric Organizational Change.
This conversation is essential for anyone involved in leading, managing, or supporting transformation including leaders, managers, HR professionals, and consultants committed to embedding people-first strategies into organisational transformation.
Professor Hodges challenges traditional, process-heavy models of change, advocating for a more sustainable, people-centric approach.
Drawing from her extensive research and practical experience, she explains why stakeholder engagement, effective communication, and leadership capability are crucial for achieving meaningful, long-term change.
The discussion also explores the positive role of volunteerism, the emotional impacts of change, and strategies to avoid common pitfalls that cause change initiatives to fail.
Julie’s approach aligns closely with The Sixsess Consultancy’s PEOPLE Change Leadership and Management Framework, which places people at the centre of strategic change.
https://sixsess.org/people-change-leadership-and-management/
Key Themes Covered:
- People-centric change is vital to any transformation effort
- Early and consistent stakeholder engagement enhances success
- Effective communication fosters trust, clarity, and momentum
- Managers must develop change leadership capabilities
- Neglecting well-being can undermine change initiatives
- Volunteerism and co-creation improve buy-in and outcomes
- AI should augment human potential, not replace it
- Change is an ongoing process, not a one-time event
Chapters and Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction to People-Centric Change
05:00 The Importance of People in Change Initiatives
11:03 Engaging Stakeholders Early
15:33 Principles of Effective Change Management
20:18 Transformational vs. Incremental Change
23:15 Crafting a Vision with Stakeholder Input
25:22 Closing Reflections and Takeaways
Quotable Moments:
“Change should be about adding value.”
“Change is a constant, not an event.”
“Change is expensive. Change can fail.”
About Professor Julie Hodges:
Professor Julie Hodges is an expert in organisational change and leadership, based at Durham University Business School. Her work focuses on managing change in a collaborative, inclusive, and sustainable manner, emphasising the human side of transformation in both academic and practical settings.
Professor Hodges’ LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/professor-julie-hodges-9787836/
Find her book on Kogan Page:
https://www.koganpage.com/hr-learning-development/people-centric-organizational-change-9781398612556
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