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Managing and Leading People Through Organisational Change - Celebrating the release of the 3rd edition by Prof Julie Hodges
Listen to the episode, be inspired - and explore the learning that powers people-led transformation.
In this special episode of the Just Great People podcast, Barry Eustance sits down with Professor Julie Hodges to mark the release of the third edition of her landmark book:
Managing and Leading People Through Organisational Change -Kogan Page
https://www.koganpage.com/hr-learning-development/managing-and-leading-people-through-organizational-change-9781398621480
Julie’s thinking has helped shape the way organisations approach change: not as a technical process or a checklist, but as a deeply human and often emotional experience.
This updated edition brings fresh perspective on the role of leadership, communication and engagement in building meaningful, lasting transformation.
In this episode, Julie and Barry explore the why behind the book’s message — and offer essential guidance for those leading change from the inside.
What you'll learn in this conversation:
- Why people-centric change is not just ethical -it's effective
- How early stakeholder engagement builds resilience and trust
- The crucial distinction between managing change and leading it
- How poorly handled change harms employee well-being
- Why volunteerism drives genuine buy-in and energy for change
- The evolving role of leaders in guiding people through uncertainty
- Where AI fits into human-led transformation (and where it doesn’t)
Ideal for:
- HR leaders and change managers
- Business consultants supporting transformation projects
- SME owners navigating cultural and operational change
- Senior managers building people-first change strategies
- Learners of The Sixsess Consultancy’s PEOPLE Framework
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to People-Centric Change
05:00 The Importance of People in Change Initiatives
11:03 Engaging Stakeholders Early
15:33 Principles of Effective Change Management
20:18 Transformational vs. Incremental Change
23:15 Crafting a Vision with Stakeholder Input
Featured Resource:
Managing and Leading People Through Organisational Change - 3rd Edition By Professor Julie Hodges:
https://www.koganpage.com/hr-learning-development/managing-and-leading-people-through-organizational-change-9781398621480
Continue learning with The Sixsess Consultancy:
PEOPLE Change Leadership & Management Framework Course
https://sixsess.org/training/people-change-management-leadership-framework-course/
Keywords:
people-centric organisational change
leading change through people UK
Julie Hodges organisational change book
stakeholder engagement strategy UK
transformation leadership training
change management capabilities UK
volunteer-led organisational change
continuous change in business UK
managing well-being during change
The Sixsess Consultancy PEOPLE Change Management and Leadership Framework
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